ARG0003gn4 - Strange Jets
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by JKD
are both Radio signals coming from the same IR-signal on the left side
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by akapinska scientist in response to JKD's comment.
no, the jets always travel in opposite directions when they are ejected from the vicinity of black hole, so the infrared source that causes this radio jets needs to be somewhere in between the radio lobes/jets - I'm not convinced it's detected here though! so that's very interesting!
i'm thinking though, whether the other two much fainter radio signals to the left are lobes of the radio galaxy are from the IR you mention. i'm nowhere to be 100% sure on this bit though....
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by enno.middelberg scientist, translator in response to akapinska's comment.
The two bright radio lobes indeed seem to come from an undetected IR source. Both lobes have their brightest spot towards the outer edge, which is frequently observed in double-lobed (or FRII) radio galaxies. The best example is Cygnus A: http://images.nrao.edu/110
In Cygnus A one can see the "hotspots" at the outer edges of the two lobes. This is where the jets terminate and the plasma begins to flow back to the galaxy. I think the same is going on here, but the object is farther away and therefore smaller.
The origin of the two fainter sources is unclear: the leftmost component could be entirely unrelated, but it could also be a leftover from a previous period of activity of the same source which now makes the two large lobes. This is known as recurring activity. The faint radio object at the top is unrelated, I would think.
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by akapinska scientist
Yes, enno, that's right, and you go on into much more technical details 😃
My main point was that the infrared that @JKD asks about is unrelated to the radio structures we see.Posted
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by Dolorous_Edd
I am probably late to the party, but here are some pics
NVSS ( 0.1 degree field ) on the left, and VLA FIRST ( 0.07 degree field ) in the middle , VLA FIRST classic on the right
IMHO feature at 23 12 58.0 +05 17 26.6 looks like a second lobe
If we assume that IT IS a second lobe then source should be somewhere in between
NED search result within 4 arcmin of 23 12 51.63,0 +5 16 47.80
Maybe???
http://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/cgi-bin/objsearch?search_type=Near+Position+Search&in_csys=Equatorial&in_equinox=J2000.0&lon=23+12+53.08+&lat=%2B05+16+53.9&radius=1.0&hconst=73&omegam=0.27&omegav=0.73&corr_z=1&z_constraint=Unconstrained&z_value1=&z_value2=&z_unit=z&ot_include=ANY&nmp_op=ANY&out_csys=Equatorial&out_equinox=J2000.0&obj_sort=Distance+to+search+center&of=pre_text&zv_breaker=30000.0&list_limit=5&img_stamp=YES#ObjNo1
Or they belong to the IR source visible on ARG0003gn4
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by HAndernach scientist, translator
this famous 3C 458, z=0.289, size 3.25' or 790 kpc; no nice radio images in NED though... but 68 references!
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